Hidden matters
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dmmRovelli and Vidotto seem to be saying that it might be that dark matter is simply "Plank sized while holes". I wonder if this would also provide a good enough explanation of dark energy (white holes if they exist would be wonderful sources of all kinds of things, and Plank-sized ones would create this feel that those things "just appear from nowhere", which seems like a nice setup for dark energy).
"Hard problem of qualia". The qualia-related part of the "hard problem of consciousness" is certainly hard. If one can factor out the "qualia problem", I am no so sure that the remaining part of the problem of consciousness is "hard" in the Chalmers-introduced sense of "hard".
So far, almost all provisional "theories of consciousness" just ignore the "hard problem of qualia" (which is why I quite skeptical of them).
The only approaches which seem to make sense are of "provisional dualism" (one provisionally introduces qualia as additional primitives
and build one's theories on top of that; if one admits qualia as primitives, the remaining part might be tractable). I just learned a couple of days ago that Johannes Kleiner made some rather nice progress in that direction in 2019.
"Hard problem of qualia". The qualia-related part of the "hard problem of consciousness" is certainly hard. If one can factor out the "qualia problem", I am no so sure that the remaining part of the problem of consciousness is "hard" in the Chalmers-introduced sense of "hard".
So far, almost all provisional "theories of consciousness" just ignore the "hard problem of qualia" (which is why I quite skeptical of them).
The only approaches which seem to make sense are of "provisional dualism" (one provisionally introduces qualia as additional primitives
and build one's theories on top of that; if one admits qualia as primitives, the remaining part might be tractable). I just learned a couple of days ago that Johannes Kleiner made some rather nice progress in that direction in 2019.
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Date: 2021-11-23 06:12 am (UTC)They might actually be complicated, but do we feel all elementary qualia (e.g. consider one of "red" colors) as being comlicated?
I guess, some acoustical or olfactory qualia do feel rather complicated... But some of them, e.g. many of the color qualia feel simple (while not necessarily being simple).
Consciousness is complicated, but I am agnostic about how complicated elementary qualia actually are. Who knows...
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But still, I think, this trick I just invented, to "substitute" word "electron" instead of word "qualia" into various statements people make about qualia, I think this is a useful trick, I should continue using it.
E.g. electron is actually fairly complicated (having spin in addition to charge, being a fermion with all this implies, having standard weird quantum properties, etc.) And, who knows, perhaps electron is magic, it is certainly a super-weird object, which is made "pseudo-normal" in our perception because we tend to downplay its weirdness in most contexts.
It is certainly not reducible to anything (even if we buy the conjectural theory about separate forces emerging during symmetry breaking; so it might be the case that it had emerged, if one believes that story of gradual emergence of multiple forces and such; but even so, having a story of emergence in the past still would not make it reducible to anything at present).
So, I don't even know if it's a bad idea to consider properties of electron to be of magic nature (all those equations it follows and such). Certainly, the closer one looks at them, the more weird they seem to be...